September 27, 2011

Brigham Young has Big 12 offer

Multiple sources have confirmed to The Upset that BYU has an official invite from the Big 12 Conference in hand and is currently poring over all details to make sure its negotiating points are satisfactorily met.

Key in the finalization of such a move is how BYUtv fits in to the Big 12, as well as how much of its current 8-year deal with ESPN BYU can keep. (It would make sense for both parties to keep it intact if contractually possible, as it would add both more money and exposure for all in the conference.) BYU officials are reviewing these details to ensure its wants can be met, which may end up in a renegotiation with Big 12 television partners ESPN and Fox if possible and/or prudent. While acceptance of this offer is not guaranteed, our sources indicate BYU definitely wants in if things can line up to BYU's liking.

Some editorial points:

An acceptance of the offer is not 100% guaranteed. As Dick Harmon of the Deseret News reported late last night, if BYU cannot obtain rebroadcast rights for football games or is not guaranteed the ability to use BYUtv to televise other sports, they will likely decline, or at least continue negotiating. But our sources indicate that BYU wants in and is efforting to make it work, whatever details may or may not be left to hammer out. Without saying as much, Harmon's story also implicitly leads that BYU has an offer: "If you hear reports out of Texas or Oklahoma that BYU is not interested in the Big 12, it is only an interpretation of BYU negotiating its talking points."

It is assumed all this is contingent upon the six-year media grant coming to fruition and being signed by the current nine members of the Big 12. Some schools have to go through a board of regents or similar body before officially agreeing to the media grant that would bind the conference together, so it seems that as of now, that agreement is still not official.

While concern over relationships with the schools in the West Coast Conference has been real, as we reported a month ago, such worries could be dissipating. ESPN's Andy Katz reported four days ago after a sitdown with WCC Commissioner Jamie Zaninovich, "If the Cougars did want to leave, they wouldn’t get held up by the WCC. The league fully understands that BYU may want to join a major football conference..."

The recent turns in the unfolding drama that has been the Big 12 Conference--and pronouncements from Larry Scott on Pac-12 non-expansion--seem to have BYU looking more favorably upon Big 12 inclusion. We had previously reported BYU's interest in aligning with both Notre Dame and Texas. One would assume the appeal of the Big 12 monetarily as well as for competition in non-football sports could ultimately lead BYU to the Big 12. BYU does still have a six-year scheduling agreement with Notre Dame in football. Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick has confirmed within the last two weeks that Notre Dame is still committed to football independence.

While BYU could still have a strong independent friend in Notre Dame, if it can maintain many of the same television freedoms it currently enjoys in independence to utilize BYUtv and its shiny new $100 million broadcasting building, but combine that with BCS money, BCS access, and a more premier league for basketball and Olympic sports -- it could be too good to pass up.

193 comments:

Uncle Eddie said...

You serious, Clark?

Anonymous said...

Found this site because of Andrew Adams on KSL tweeting it out. Cool if true.....a lot of details to be worked out, as you mentioned. I don't know if I like it.

BTW, who is this source?

BleedingBlue said...

Great work guys! Awsome News!

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Scott Gardner said...

Very interesting (and awesome) if true, indeed. The big questions now are the ones presented in the editorial notes. I don't tihnk the WCC and getting out of their bowl contracts are going to be a big issue. From what I hear Sunday play has been smoothed over with the Big 12. The largest looming setback is BYUtv. I seriously doubt that BYU will accept the offer if the Big 12 places stipulations on BYUtv like the MWC did. And i'm sure that BYU won't make the same mistake as they did with the MWC when they were given verbal reassurances that they could use BYUtv as a medium for broadcasting... either way I: hope they join up with the Big 12. It would be huge win-win if they join while maintaining most of their broadcasting rights/and deal with BYUtv and ESPN. Doubt it though.

Russell Parry said...

Would love to have you guys! I would imagine that the Tier 3 rights can be worked out just fine as Texas has cleared 99% of it's same hurdle with the other members. Texas also wants Notre Dame, as I am sure BYU does, to eventually join and Tier 3 will be paramount to them as well. Hope it works out. We enjoyed having you guys visit Austin this year and would be proud to have you as our tenth member.

Anonymous said...

What Russell Parry said!

Anonymous said...

"Pouring" over the details? If you're going to play a journalist on the internet, better step up your game.

Anonymous said...

This is not being reported anywhere else. I'm pretty sure that if this were true it would be at ESPN.com or at least at one other site.

Anonymous said...

It would be a major win for BYU if they can get into the Big 12 and still keep the rights to BYUtv. Russell it was really good to go down to Austin and play Texas. I think BYU would love to play teams in the likes of Texas, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State year in and year out. Teams that have a great tradition of good collegiate sports. I only hope that the rumors are true.

Anonymous said...

Russell, as a BYU fan we would love to be a part of the Big 12! I hope this comes true and happens. It would make for some amazing football and basketball.

Anonymous said...

Good pick up. Hope the big 12 goes to 14 teams and picks up TCU, WV, Louisville & Cincy or USF

Anonymous said...

As a Texas fan, would love to have BYU in the conference. I've heard nothing but good things about BYUtv and can appreciate the school's proactive and forward thinking leadership in this regard. We definitely need more schools in the Big 12 from that standpoint

Anonymous said...

I think your sources are full of crap!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Enter at your own peril BYU...there is a reason three schools have gotten away (and few more would love to)...enter into relations with Tex at your own risk...this conference will die...maybe not now, but it will!

Anonymous said...

If BYU joins Big 12 and it falls apart, would BYU be that much different than now? I see little downside for BYU and lots of upside.

Anonymous said...

Great work on this article. I hope your source is right. Fox 13 news just mentioned this blog and your report. And to the poster who doubts this report because it isn't on ESPN... ESPN has proven it's not a leader in sports journalism with it's recent failures in reporting the Mike Leach news and the Miami scandal news.

Anonymous said...

I laughed at the person that implied "pouring" is some kind idiotic journalistic word. Nice. I actually thought the article was well written.

As for your source, you guys were right with Independence and a few other things it sounds like, so I am a believer! I definitely hope the source is right. Every five to ten years BYU will make a run at a conference championship and that is awesome!

Keep up the great work!

Anonymous said...

The article does not address the elephant in the room.....Sunday play. BYU will not play on Sunday for any sport, (Golf, Bowling, whatever). Has this hurdle been addressed? If Sunday play has not been dealt with, this whole BIG 12 deal for BYU goes away. Right now the BIG 12 needs BYU WAY more than BYU needs the BIG 12. Teams in the BIG 12 are leaving in droves, and Texas obviously leaves a big wake.

Old Tascosa said...

ND, Texas & BYU share a somewhat similar view of how 3rd tier rights should be managed and utilized. Most conferences don't allow this and it scares many teams who don't share that vision.

It is fairly widely acknowledged that BYU is the B12's 1st realistic option for expansion, so even if the offer hasn't been officially extended, the negotiations are real. Sundays can be worked around as most coaches would rather use those for travel and to allow their students to prepare for classes. I don't think the replay rights, within some exclusive time limitation for the 1st & 2nd tier networks, is an insurmountable problem. And these negotiations may even work to Texas' & the LHN's advantage for additional content.

As to how much expansion is being sought by the B12, 10, but no more than 12, is the likely scenario. Debate centers on who the candidates are, what they bring, and the advantages/disadvantages of a conference championship game.

Mitch said...

Anon - Sunday play isn't a big a deal as some assume. The AD's have known forever that Sunday play was out of the question, and they would never have even approached BYU if it were an issue. Concessions had to have already been agreed upon before making the call to Provo. In fact the 2012 men's bball tourney championship game has already been moved from Sun to Sat (although its only speculative to suggest that this somehow is in preparation for BYU's entrance into the conference).

Anonymous said...

Yup the BIG XII does not play on Sunday's for major sports and if the Olympics sports did have a Sunday contest it would likely be moved (I believe the BIG XII doesn't play on Sunday period).

I'm sure the BIG XII and BYU aren't announcing anything until they know the fate of Missouri. If Missouri stays the BIG XII could stay at 10 with the addition of BYU... Then they could expand in time. If Missouri leaves, I could see the BIG XII expanding to 12 with the likes of BYU, TCU, Louisville and either Cincinnati/West Virginia.

Unknown said...

Very well written Brett, I am impressed. Articles like this will lead you to bigger and better things, especially if this turns out to be true.

Anonymous said...

keep it up guys.. you guys are awesome. i appreciate your work as a fan

Anonymous said...

BYU will be left out in the cold as the Big XII embraces TCU, Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia. The conference would rather have a foothold in the east, not the west. Beware of Utah sources as they blow smoke up their own rears to make them seem important. This state is so dilluted, a rumor is taken as fact, when no one outside of the state is even aware of it. I love living here...not really.

They pick up a little bit of academics, some not so much, but they stay away from the BYU stigma that the PAC-12 passed on in about 12 seconds.

Anonymous said...

BYU left out in the cold??? You wish dude

Anonymous said...

Utah does suck. Good thing most students at BYU are not from Utah. California now makes up the largest number of students accepted to BYU, then Utah, followed closely by arizona and nevada, and the great NW (WA and OR). I now live on the East Coast and hope this is true, even if I can't get all the games it would be great if BYU could help set a precedent for tier 3 rights. OU is setting up their own tier 3 stations now, as well as many other schools in the B12 and across the country. Its the way of the future.

Anonymous said...

Well Tom Holmoe proved this article wrong on Saturday. I can't help but laugh... Hysterically.

Billy's Blog said...

Tom Holmoe did not exactly prove this article wrong. BYU simply did not receive an "official" invite. B12 will give the "official" invite once all of the issues are worked out and both parties agree. They will only "officially" invite if BYU will definitely accept. It is a long negotiation process. TCU did not have the concerns with TV coverage that BYU does so their deal was relatively simple. BYU is going to the Big 12.

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